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From Antone Wilson:
2/47th Inf
Ft Benning, GA
7 Mar 2004
5:26:56 EST
         My friend, I absolutely love your site. Good luck with the book. I think it is a great idea. I'd like to write about the 1969 Super Chiefs because it was such a great team. Its victory was more significant than the Jets because it showed their win wasn't a fluke.
         Most people don't realize how significant that team was. It was the team of the future with its complex offense and great athletes on both sides of the ball. I believe that Willie Lanier is the greatest Mike backer of all time though Ray Lewis may be the best someday. I also think that Lynch and Bell round out the best group of backers in history. Better, of course, than Taylor,Carson and Banks.
         There is a new book on the AFL   ["Going Long" by Jeff Miller] out, similar to Loose Balls (The ABA oral history). I'm an ABA fan too. There are lots of resources out there to help you with your research. Try to find We Came of Age, an excellent book about the AFL's history. I'll bet you already have it. [I do!]
         I look forward to your book. I'm sure it will be a big winner because there is a renewed interest in the AFL. Now, we have to get Otis Taylor - an ESPN reporter recently referred to him as "'The Great' Otis Taylor" - and Gino Cappelletti into the Hall of Fame.
         Please stay in contact.                                             SFC Antone R Wilson MP
From Bob Schnebly:
PO Box 724
Centreville, VA 20122-0724
[Originally Posted 27 Feb 2004 23:52:27 EST]
This is just wonderful...I LOVE THE AFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 Mar 2004 12:31:52 EST
         A week or two I sent a e-mail to your guest book and I never saw it pop up on your site.  Oh well, I love to see my thoughts in print!  Ha!!!  Ha!!!  Ha!!!  Anyway, I continue to be amazed at how well your site is presented.  I think it might be the best site on the net.
         I would have loved to see StL Cards (1970's  WR) Mel Gray and 1970's StL Cards and Min Viks (John Gilliam - WR) as well as the great Lenny Moore and Frank Gifford in the AFL!!!
    Bob Schnebly

10 Mar 2004
         What an awsome, wonderful site.  I love the work you have done with this.  As an AFL (Denver) fan who lived in Northern Va growing up, I loved Lionel Taylor and Floyd Little.  Man could they do their job!  Lionel didn't have great talent, but he made his hands work for him as nearly none other in football history.   Why he isn't in the ["pro football"] HOF is a shame.    Bob Schnebly

From M. Faber:
722 Camino Amigo
Danville, CA 94526
18 Mar 2004
         What a terrific web site!  I stumbled across you today when trying to find AFL game statistics between the Oakland Raiders and Boston Patriots played on September 17, 1967.  This was my first year as a Raider fan and my first Raider game I'd attended (age 12). My Dad had purchased season tickets to the then new (2nd year) Oakland Coliseum. WOW, I love this site!  I plan to come back and visit you often!   Thank you for keeping the AFL alive.
From John in CA:
19 Mar 2004
     All I have to say is, that this is the coolest website I have ever seen.  I thought that I knew everything there was to know about AFL football.   I was sadly mistaken.  I have learned alot from this terrific site.   Great work!
From hezr:
120  ur
24 Mar 2004
this site is good
From C. Lynn Brooks:
26 Mar 2004
2:00:06 AM EST
          Does anyone have an opinion about the percentage of early-AFL players who were good enough to have played in the NFL, lets say from 1960 till '64?   In other words: NFL mistakes.   I can thank of two QB's: George Blanda & Jack Kemp; not to forget Lenny Dawson.   Just interested in others folks' opinions. 

Don Maynard is a glaring example.  See "NFL Rejects".  There are two categories of such players: the ones like those above, who the NFL was too dumb to keep, and the ones who the NFL was too biased, cheap, or ineffective to draft and sign.  The latter group includes dozens of stars the other league would have been glad to have - Lance Alworth, Jim Otto, Lionel Taylor, Billy Cannon, Billy Shaw, John Hadl, Matt Snell, and on and on.  The AFL had just as many great players, team-for-team, as did the other league. 
Remember the AFL]
From Cheryl:
Originally posted on
27 Mar 2004
10:36:21 PM EST
          Your AFL site [] is an excellent source of information. Thanks to your website I was finally able to prove that Fran Tarkenton was initially drafted by the Boston Patriots. Can anyone tell me why a player could be drafted by an AFL team and then be drafted again during the NFL draft? Did the players then have a choice as to which league they could play for?
          Thank you for creating this website and thank you for any assistance which you can give?

               The American Football League and the NFL were TWO SEPARATE, DIFFERENT LEAGUES from 1960 through 1969.  They were in competition with each other, for fans, and for the players who would put fans in the stands.  From 1960 through 1966, college players could choose which league they wanted to play for.   Each league held a separate collegiate draft.  Tarkenton chose to play in the conservative, hide-bound, arrogant NFL, while stars like Lance Alworth, Billy Shaw, Matt Snell, Joe Namath, Charlie Hennigan, Lionel Taylor, Otis Taylor, and a host of others chose to play in the more progressive and entertaining American Football League, which became the genesis of modern professional football.
                 When the American Football League's success threatened to  destroy the NFL, the older league in 1966 agreed to merge with the American Football League.  The leagues played separate schedules for 1966 through 1969, but beginning in 1967, held a "common" collegiate draft.  The four Super Bowls played after the 1966 through 1969 seasons were the only World Championship professional football games ever played between two league champions.  The first two were won by  the NFL Packers, and the final two were won by the
Jets and the Chiefs.  See my AFL home page and Wikipedia's AFL pages for more history.
     Remember the AFL

From Pat Namanny:
4 Apr 2004 5:14:57 PM EST
[This was originally sent as an e-mail in response to Charles Oakey's post of 27 Feb 2004.]
          I too was at the very first Raiders game ever played, a preseason game against the
Dallas Texans, at Kezar Stadium in San Francisco!  I was 6 years old at the time and it was the first professional game of any sort that I ever attended.  My Dad and I were given tickets to the game by my uncle, Sid Hoos, who was a sportswriter with the Oakland Tribune at the time.  I still have the program from it, as well as a number of others from the 1960s.  I didn't understand or appreciate the game at the time and all I truly remember from that game was running around the stadium with my cousin and that there were possibly more seagulls in attendance than fans.   I later attended 5 or 6 games at Frank Youell Field in Oakland. I distinctly remember The 11 Angry Men" and Ben Davidson, Tom Keating, Ike Lassiter and Danny Birdwell putting rookie Joe Willie Namath flat on his back a number of times in the rain at Frank Youell.  When the Colisseum opened in 1966, we became season ticket holders and my parents continued attending all their games through the '81 season.  Some of my fondest memories were attending Raider games in the mid to late 60s and then meeting up with a number of the Raiders at The Grotto in Jack London Square for dinner after the games.  Having relocated to Southern California to attend law school in the mis 70s, I had mixed emotions about the Raiders move to LA but held season seats from '84 - '87.    I bought a dish to follow them since '88; the LA Colisseum is just a horrible place to attend games!
          I have an extensive collection of AFL and Raider memorabilia dating back to 1960, most of which is just in storage because my wife doesn't appreciate the value in it.  Most all the items that I have displayed deal with the
'69 Jets and their SB III win.  I have a real passion for the old AFL and had thought of writing a book about about it but 3 or 4 others seem to have stolen my thunder and recently seized the idea.  I'm an attorney in Southern California and have worked on a number of cases with Ron Mix, who agreed to put me in contact with a number of the old players and coaches.
          I saw the picture of Clem Daniels wearing #35 which you posted on Ange Coniglio's wonderful AFL website.  I'm 99.9% sure that's Daniels but I'll double-check one of my programs from 1961 just to make sure that he was assigned that number in '61.  I of course later remember him as #36 and Hewritt Dixon as #35.  As I said, they're packed away in our storage unit so it may be a bit of a project to retreive them but I'll try to do so in the next few weeks.                                                                                                     ttyl, Pat Namanny

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